"I do believe that if she could sing under a secret identity and still affect people and touch their lives that she’d rather not be famous. That, if she had her choice, she’d rather take off her shoes and do cartwheels in the park. That’s really who she’d like to be. But unfortunately that’s something you give up when you become as famous as she is. We’ve tried it many times. We tried it in London a few summers ago—Tina, Solange, and myself. We were riding bikes and just hanging out, and Beyoncé was at the hotel and was, like, "I’m coming!" And we waited, and she got there and arrived with a big crowd of people behind her. We tried to ignore it, but even in that moment she said, "You guys enjoy the day and I’m going to go." And she left. But she doesn’t complain about it. This is what she was born to do and she’s loved it since she was a kid. She never takes it for granted. She appreciates every second of it."